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Bayes, Profit, and You

Why 200-percent inspection is a waste of time and money

Steven Ouellette
Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:46
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Why is improving quality so important? Why not spend our money on something else in the business? I know it seems a little odd to ask this, especially to readers of Quality Digest, but could those not initiated into the mysteries of the quality gurus be right? Is getting it “out the door” the only thing that matters? Or is there a pragmatic reason why we work so hard on improving quality? Give me a few moments of your time, and I think I can prove to you why making quality better makes you more money.

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But first, let’s talk about a little thing called “Bayes’ theorem.” (You know me; I couldn’t pass up an opportunity to bring stats into the discussion.)

Now Bayes’ theorem is pretty simple in terms of probabilities but has far-reaching implications for those of us who live in reality (note that I specifically exclude most politicians from this clade). It is also almost never applicable in solving problems in industry, for reasons that will become obvious soon. That does not mean it is unimportant—the principle underlies how science actually works, even if is not going to help you design an experiment in industry.

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Submitted by TPW on Thu, 06/14/2012 - 12:56

Hmm

While I agree with the spirit of your anti-reinspection argument, I would argue that with the numbers in this example, reinspection results in a gain of about 70K, not a loss of 30K.

Costs from units that fail both inspections are not incurred as a result of reinspection. The effect of the second inspection is to unscrap approximately 9000 defective units and 42000 good units. Unscrapping a good unit means you both remove a $0.75 scrap cost and gain a $1.00 profit for each unit. The losses due to reinspection are about ($2250) = 9000*($1.75-$2.00).

(My guess for the 0.1% defect p(defect|scrapped) was in the ballpark, but still too high.)

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Submitted by Rajohnson on Fri, 06/15/2012 - 10:15

In reply to Hmm by TPW

depends on perspective...and which accounting games to play

I also agree with the assessment of no 200% inspection.  I actually lean much farther to "no inspection".

 

As far as the analysis of profit/loss both analyses so far are a bit off.  Both are valid arithmetic, but not arranged correctly.

The first pass is pretty straightforward and getting to "net income" of $743,750 I think we all agree.

 

Now come the accounting games:  one game is to take the incremental income and subtract the resulting cost and get ~$30k loss. While mathematically correct, this misses that the bad ones were getting scrapped anyhow and already accounted for.  We just added inspection cost to confirm these failures (which we've chosen to leave out...more on that later).  The next game is to show the reinspection as the gross recoup of the good parts (the $1.75 above).  while this is mathematically correct, it neglects that $62,725 is still being scrapped and the additional $18k in market losses, which results in a benefit of ~$65k increase in gross profit. See the analysis below

 

Now to inspection costs: with the scales given, I would venture that $0.05 inspection (including handling, storage, transportation to inspection, etc.) is a fair cost per part to inspect.  Given that the cost to inspect the 1,000,000 the first time around is $50k and the subsequent 135,000 would add an additional $6,700.  Adding these costs to the model essentially gives a "neutral" cost to the overall inspection (with the exception of that liability lawsuit for knowingly and purposefully introducing additional defects into the market place).

 

With the inspection cost "neutral" to a bottom line, the impact of increasing effectiveness of inspection becomes almost impossible to define and justify.  Whereas the reduction of defects directly hits the bottom line (and doesn’t incur the inspection costs!).  this is pretty easy to demonstrate to a business.  The other intangible effect of reducing defectives is to increase the capacity of the organization WHILE reducing the costs.  So any capacity constrained company gets HUGE benefits through reduction of defectives.

 

The roadblock I’ve encountered is the "quality experts" have been traditionally trained on defect recognition not defect prevention and thus see defect prevention as a threat to their livelihood.  Changing the knowledge base and culture of a profession gets to be the significant challenge we face.  That the bean counters are driven by the arithmetic, it gets even harder to justify the change (see the analysis)...the math shows it's not too bad, might even be good!  getting REAL numbers for market losses (include those lawsuits [even if risk based and the magnitude is weighted by a probability of occurrence]!!) and things like market perception, goodwill to customers, all those intangibles that affect(effect?) a buying decision get to be important.

 

The intuition for detecting .1% defective: pretty darn close to 0.

 

 Analysis:

1,000,000 produced

900,000 good

100,000 truly defective

90,000 detected defective

45,000 detected defective and really good

855,000 sold (10,000 of which are truly bad)

gross profit : 855,000-$2(10,000) = $835,000

pending scrap:135,000 units

reinspection: 51367 found good and sold: +~$51k to the $835 (~9,000 actually bad!)

still bad 83633 (not much different than the original 90K is it??) = $~63k

bad released to market ~9k = -$18k from the total

total after 200% inspection: $835 +51 - 63 -18 = ~$805k, from the ~$744 of only 100% inspection

presented this way:  200% inspection LOOKS good for the business to the tune of about $65k

add inspection costs: 1,000,000 * $.05 for first pass + 135,000 *$.05 for 2nd pass = ~$57k... still looks "not bad" as $57 looks less than $65....

 

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Submitted by Steven Ouellette on Mon, 06/18/2012 - 21:03

In reply to depends on perspective...and which accounting games to play by Rajohnson

Fun fun fun!

Yeah, in simplifying it I probably went too far. My oversimplification was that scrap costs incurred on the first go-through are also incurred on the second go-through. I don't think this is unreasonable (costs associated with containment, inventory, lost productivity, etc. could very well be equal to the "throw it away" costs) but I should have explicitly spelled that out and modeled it. I did purposefully leave off inspections costs, so I am glad RAJOHNSON put them in. If the process is more fully modeled, the costs on inspection become truly astronomical. Hmm, maybe I'll expand on the idea and give more detail for another article. Might be too numbers-heavy though. I'll ponder. It would also be fun to build a continuous process, and add in inspection and opportunity costs and Taguchi losses...
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