A customer for whom we are developing a new process has identified some 15 critical characteristics he would like us to track. Although advances in automated data collection and charting make this sort of easy, this seems like an awful lot of information to track, make sense of, and actually use to improve the process. Is multi-vari Charting or something like it a good option? I need some ammunition for my quality manager. Thanks
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qdigest 3/26/2001
AS9000 was replaced in November 1999 by AS9100, which is aligned with ISO 9001:1994. AS9100:1999 can be ordered from SAE International in Warrendale, PA, by calling (724) 776-4970 and you can get more information on prices, etc., from SAE's web site (www.sae.org). However, you may want to wait a few months to purchase the latest edition of AS9100.
Developed by the International Aerospace Quality Group and sold in the Americas as AS9100 and in Europe and elsewhere as EN9100, AS9100 was the subject of a meeting of the IAQG in mid-March 2001, and it is expected that the outcome of that meeting may have been revision of AS/EN9100 to align with ISO 9001:2000, which would be published and available by the second quarter of 2001, as anticipated previously by several sources.
While it may be a few weeks before the result of the recent IAQG is known. So, unless your organization has a need to become registered or wants to get its QMS into conformance with AS9100:1999 in preparation of AS9100:2001, you might find it useful to check back in a few weeks and/or check the SAE web site regularly.
qdigest 3/28/2001
To order a copy of AS9100 (which has been introduced to replace AS9000 - forget AS9000), call the SAE at 724-776-4790; that's their order line. Or you can order at the website, www.sae.org/
Yes, this standard is written with ISO 9000:1994 as its base, however PIC has no word on an expected revision - Aerospace really doesn't pay much attention to the rest of the manufacturing world, so I doubt they feel any deadline-crunch with regard to this standard. Most aerospace companies we serve are building ISO 9001:2000 within AS9100 and auditing for compliance at the same time.
Most DOD contractors are already implementing AS9100 as so many leaders in the industry are requiring it - Rolls-Royce, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon just to name a few. AS9100 is where it's at.
Another thing about AS9100 ---, very few registrars are accredited to certify to this standard. I would call RAB to find out more about registrars for this standard; I believe SGS handles it, but am not certain of the others. Most of our clients are carrying Certificates of Compliance at this time.
I don't think you will see a revised AS9100 this year, I simply do not. As it was only published in December 1999 and is only just now beginning to see widespread implementation within the aerospace industry, I just don't see that happening. But I could be wrong - I think the industry will drive that. In accordance to our aerospace clients' requests, we are developing a course called:
"Successful Implementation of ISO 9001:2000 Within an AS9100 Environment", as many companies want their certifications to work well within each other - this would alleviate the current requirement for more than one certification.
Anyway - I hope this information helps you.
Best regards,
Peggy Johnson
PIC Nashville
qdigest 3/29/2001
I would like to thank Peggy and kimr for their responses to my initial message and the additional information they have provided. However, I am not sure what kimr disagrees with in my initial message, but there are several points I would like to clarify.
1. To order AS9100:1999 or AS9000, I have verified that the order number at SAE is (724) 776-4970.
2. Boeing was not happy with AS9000 when it was completed and chose to stick with D1-9000, its own set of aerospace quality requirements. However, the changes made to AS9000 in producing AS9100:1999, which also contains the verbatim text of ISO 9001:2000 in normal type (with the aerospace additions in boldface type), were acceptable to Boeing.
3. It is important to note that Boeing played a direct role in the Americas Aerospace Quality Group, which wrote AS9000, and the International Aerospace Quality Group, which wrote AS9100 and includes the participation of the AAQG members and representatives from the European and Asian-Pacific Rim aerospace communities, in developing both versions. I never indicated that the contents of AS9100 do or do not reflect those of D1-9000, although it was good of kimr to note this.
4. As of November 2000, there were still no registration schemes for AS9100 and only an AS9000 registration scheme in the Americas. Such schemes are being developed and were likely the subject of work by the IASG members during their meeting last week. Thus, registrars qualified to conduct AS9000 assessments and issue certificates of registration may be issuing certificates of conformance for AS9100 in anticipation that the registration scheme will be revised in the near term.
5. AS9100:1999, although only slightly more than a year old, is being revised and the latest word I had from contacts in the AAQG is that a new edition aligned with ISO 9001:2000 is expected to be completed this year. If I hear anything definitive regarding the schedule, I will post it to the Forum. The reason it is being revised so soon after its initial release is due to the completion of revisions to ISO 9001. ISO 9001:2000 was published in December 2000 and the International Accreditation Forum members are adhering to a 3-year transition period for ISO 9001/2/3:1994 certificates of registration. Thus, companies registered to AS9000 or AS9100:1999 would lose their ISO 9001/2:1994 registration validity on December 15, 2003.
6. I am sure that PIC's course or a similar course is a good way for an aerospace supplier to prepare for the future, since I have not been given any indication that the revisions to AS9100:1999 will involve much more than an alignment of the sector-specific requirements with ISO 9001:2000 vs. ISO 9001:1994. We won't know if there are any new requirements until it is reissued.
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kimr 3/28/2001
I'm not sure I agree with Jim's reply. AS9000 was the aerospace market's version of ISO 9001:1994, which also included unique aerospace sector requirements such as foreign object damage control on 4.9 Process Control. The differences between ISO 9001:1994 and AS9000 are easy to detect because SAE put the additional requirements in bold type. The primes that I talked with early in 2000 (I've switched companies since then) said that AS9100 would be much closer to the Boeing D1-9000 standard, which was has much more stringent requirements and takes a QS9000 approach in that its focus is on specific product quality as well as quality system issues.